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#551 From: "tomleem7659" <jerseywarp@...>
Date: Fri Sep 6, 2002 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: 'FreePM'? tomleem7659
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--- In osFree@y..., "evgen_ek" <evgen_k@r...> wrote:
> Hi,
> --- In osFree@y..., "tomleem7659" <jerseywarp@o...> wrote:
> > Is there a web site or file about 'FreePM'?
> > I see it mentioned and wondered if there is
> > an actual site or file about and/or for it.
>
> http://frepm.sourceforge.net
>
> but it is at embryonic state

Thank you for the url. It will be interesting to
see what it will 'grow into'.

TomLeeM

#552 From: "Bartosz Tomasik (Bart/2)" <bart2@...>
Date: Sat Sep 7, 2002 11:39 am
Subject: Re: FreePM progress ihsiatko
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On Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:45:13 -0000, evgen_ek wrote:

>Also it can be possible to douwnload periodically FreePM snapshorts
>to some ftp, say osfree.

would be good...

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#553 From: "Bartosz Tomasik (Bart/2)" <bart2@...>
Date: Sat Sep 7, 2002 11:43 am
Subject: Re: FreePM progress ihsiatko
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On Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:45:13 -0000, evgen_ek wrote:

>Hi,
>So, now it seems that there is some potential for FreePM progress.
>Embrional draft of it is now compiled with VAC3.08 and VAC4.
>[...]

>Also it can be possible to douwnload periodically FreePM snapshorts
>to some ftp, say osfree.

btw, I'll be probaby working on controls part (if you don't mind)
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#554 From: "Bartosz Tomasik (Bart/2)" <bart2@...>
Date: Sat Sep 7, 2002 11:56 am
Subject: Re: osFree toolkit, wasRe: pmrexx sources ihsiatko
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On Fri, 06 Sep 2002 12:56:53 +0400 (EDT), Yuri Prokushev wrote:

>>What we need to build ourself is a kernel/cpi SDK and later our own DDK.
>Yes. I have info (probably, complite, expect binded MSGSEG) about msgfiles. At
the
present time I have worked MSG decompiler and some parts of compiler. I don't
>have info about cat files yet, so, message processing is clear (in most cases).
Some
with ipf subsystem.

If I good understand this, we can build ipfc, inf2tipf, mkmsgf, msg2txt? So if
wee could
build rc also, we would have all necessry tools?




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#555 From: "Yuri Prokushev" <prokushev@...>
Date: Sat Sep 7, 2002 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: osFree toolkit, wasRe: pmrexx sources prokushev
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 09:56:18 +0200 (CDT), Bartosz Tomasik (Bart/2) wrote:

>>>What we need to build ourself is a kernel/cpi SDK and later our own DDK.
>>Yes. I have info (probably, complite, expect binded MSGSEG) about msgfiles.
At the
>present time I have worked MSG decompiler and some parts of compiler. I don't
>>have info about cat files yet, so, message processing is clear (in most
cases). Some
>with ipf subsystem.
>If I good understand this, we can build ipfc, inf2tipf, mkmsgf, msg2txt?
mkmsgf - comming soon.
msg2txt (named demsgf) - already done, but not published yet. Supports all known
msg features.
msg.dll - planned to be written after fpc 1.2 released
ipfc - partally done syntax analyzer. Most of info available.
inf2tipf - not planned, but can be written, if required (based on newview
soures).

>So if wee could build rc also, we would have all necessry tools?
Well, rc is part of os/2 distribution (If I remember correctly), but yes, we
will have most of required tools. I think rc sources can be found in the net,
probably, winerc can be
used.

Also required:
msgbind - binding message files to executable (msgseg32 code segment)
sc - som/idl compiler (in planning stage)

#556 From: "evgen_ek" <evgen_k@...>
Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 2:37 am
Subject: syllable and atheos evgen_ek
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Hi,

What the people think about
http://syllable.sourceforge.net/index.shtml
and
http://www.atheos.cx/

May be there is some interesting in it ?

SY,
EK

#557 From: Ben Ravago <ben.ravago@...>
Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 4:08 am
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If you're looking for a base OS you might want to look at
http://www.eros-os.org

#558 From: "criguada@..." <criguada@...>
Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 10:59 am
Subject: Re: syllable and atheos criguada
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Hi

> What the people think about
> http://www.atheos.cx/
>
> May be there is some interesting in it ?

I played around with AtheOS some time ago, and I enjoyed it quite much.
It has several things that would make it a good starting point for an
OS/2 clone, and I advocated such a clone for some time.
The point is that it also lacks many important things. At one point it
seemed the author was developing it steadily and quickly, fixing bugs
and filling holes, but this is not true anymore. It's been almost a year
since the author wrote code for Athoes, and the project (from author's
own words) is basically dead.

BTW, it could be good to borrow something. Is already has a windowing
system that is NOT based on XFree... maybe it could be a good starting
point for FreePM (but don't really know... maybe it's just rubbish).

Another thing is that it has a device-driver model that let you
load/unload device driver at run time, without having to shut down. But
I think we should (at least initially) stick with OS/2's DD model, since
OS/2 already covers a huge quantity of devices (the second OS after M$'s).

One thing that could really be nice: AtheOS File System is journalled,
it supports EAs (NOT limited to 64Kb), and it already has support for
notifying the kernel about FS changes (a feature used in OS/2 to notify
the WPS when it has to refresh a folder view).

Hope this helps...
Bye

Cris

#559 From: "tomleem7659" <jerseywarp@...>
Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 10:01 pm
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--- In osFree@y..., Ben Ravago <ben.ravago@v...> wrote:
> If you're looking for a base OS you might want to look at
> http://www.eros-os.org

I was a little suspicious and ambrihensive about this
site (eros is also a Greek word from which we get the
word erotic). I am glad it has nothing to do with that
meaning but actually an acronym.

TomLeeM

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