#111 From: "JMA" <mail@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2002 6:43 pm
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:59:36 +0100, criguada@... wrote:
>Hi JMA,
>
>> >styles and doc tools, than I'll post a few suggestions here for you to
>> >approve one or the other alternative.
>> >
>> For *us* to approve.
>
>I think that, for this to work, there must be a somewhat tirannic
>project admin, otherwise we fall back to the FreeOS situation, where
>everyone discusses everything and noone does anything.
>
You are probably right !
I'll be our Machiavelli
But do not hesitate to tell me if I'm all wrong.
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Re: Part 4
#112 From: "JMA" <mail@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2002 6:57 pm
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:47:41 +0300 (MST), Marat Khalili wrote:
> 2. They have definitely attracted a lot of public - let us use it for good.
Most of us are
>programmers ready to do something - please *stay online* for some time. Leaked
sources do
>not matter, our community does.
>
Right !
> 3. We'll have to decide what do we really need to keep of OS/2: kernel,
driver base , CPI
>programs, PM, WPS, PM programs, REXX-enabled shell, something else?
>
I called for a osFree/CMD group to get development started.
As any programmer would agree, it takes much longer to think something out than
to do the
actual coding.
Whatever underpinnings (loader/kernel/drivers model) we choose we will still
need the command
line tools and the CPI (Dos/Kbd/Mou/Vio) layer.
This is a place we can start and where most of us can help.
If you know how to build kernel stuff join osFree/Kernel. Test alternatives and
tell us all what you
found out. But PLEASE, dont just read websites and talk endlessly about it.
Get the code, build it from scratch, answer questions like,
how well would it fit the OS/2 community, how easy would it be to add OS/2 API
support, could
it be made to run OS/2 drivers etc.
Action speaks louder than words.
Sincerely
JMA
Development and Consulting
John Martin , jma@...
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Date: Wed Feb 20, 2002 6:57 pm
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:47:41 +0300 (MST), Marat Khalili wrote:
> 2. They have definitely attracted a lot of public - let us use it for good.
Most of us are
>programmers ready to do something - please *stay online* for some time. Leaked
sources do
>not matter, our community does.
>
Right !
> 3. We'll have to decide what do we really need to keep of OS/2: kernel,
driver base , CPI
>programs, PM, WPS, PM programs, REXX-enabled shell, something else?
>
I called for a osFree/CMD group to get development started.
As any programmer would agree, it takes much longer to think something out than
to do the
actual coding.
Whatever underpinnings (loader/kernel/drivers model) we choose we will still
need the command
line tools and the CPI (Dos/Kbd/Mou/Vio) layer.
This is a place we can start and where most of us can help.
If you know how to build kernel stuff join osFree/Kernel. Test alternatives and
tell us all what you
found out. But PLEASE, dont just read websites and talk endlessly about it.
Get the code, build it from scratch, answer questions like,
how well would it fit the OS/2 community, how easy would it be to add OS/2 API
support, could
it be made to run OS/2 drivers etc.
Action speaks louder than words.
Sincerely
JMA
Development and Consulting
John Martin , jma@...
==================================
Website: http://www.jma.se/
email: mail@...
Phone: 46-(0)70-6278410
==================================
Re: Part 4
#113 From: "W. Schmid" <ws@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:58 pm
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Just for information. An other alternativ operating system.
http://www.atheos.cx/
Ciao,
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Re: Part 4
#114 From: "Bartosz Tomasik (Bart/2)" <bart2@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 8:45 pm
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:02:51 -0000, maratcolumn1 wrote:
>What are driver options for ReactOS? Will it be driver-compatible to
>NT or something else? (Probably this must be in the ReactOS FAQ).
>
>Kernel of NT clone... There's a lot of irony in it if you know the
>full story. However, this must be the closest kernel to OS/2.
we've just got a discussion about it on pl.comp.os2.os2 (kernel for OS/2), and
many
people advised closer look at http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html
dunno anything about it yet.... just checking
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>What are driver options for ReactOS? Will it be driver-compatible to
>NT or something else? (Probably this must be in the ReactOS FAQ).
>
>Kernel of NT clone... There's a lot of irony in it if you know the
>full story. However, this must be the closest kernel to OS/2.
we've just got a discussion about it on pl.comp.os2.os2 (kernel for OS/2), and
many
people advised closer look at http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html
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Re: Part 4
#115 From: "Michal Necasek" <michaln@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2002 9:58 pm
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:16:54 +0100, criguada@... wrote:
>I forgot one thing: wouldn't it be good to establish a common coding
>style? We could choose among the well-established ones (K&R, etc.).
>
Personally I wouldn't dwell on coding style too much for one
practical reason: it is highly unlikely that two, let alone more
than two programmers would agree on a common style.
So yes, some guidelines should be laid down but I wouldn't be too
pedantic.
>We could also choose a comment style compatible with automatic
>documentation tools (any suggestions? doxygen? others?).
>Finally, we could choose a scheme for naming variables. The classical
>one used in IBM OS/2 Toolkit seems like a good candidate.
>
Yes, that sounds good because this scheme should be familiar
to all OS/2 programmers.
Michal
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2002 9:58 pm
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:16:54 +0100, criguada@... wrote:
>I forgot one thing: wouldn't it be good to establish a common coding
>style? We could choose among the well-established ones (K&R, etc.).
>
Personally I wouldn't dwell on coding style too much for one
practical reason: it is highly unlikely that two, let alone more
than two programmers would agree on a common style.
So yes, some guidelines should be laid down but I wouldn't be too
pedantic.
>We could also choose a comment style compatible with automatic
>documentation tools (any suggestions? doxygen? others?).
>Finally, we could choose a scheme for naming variables. The classical
>one used in IBM OS/2 Toolkit seems like a good candidate.
>
Yes, that sounds good because this scheme should be familiar
to all OS/2 programmers.
Michal
Re: Part 4
#116 From: "Bartosz Tomasik (Bart/2)" <bart2@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 12:31 am
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:21:53 +0100, JMA wrote:
>So no more talk, lets start working:
>
>I'm now starting the command line tools team. Our goal is to build compatible
>versions of the command line tools you find in OS/2 Warp 4.
>[..]
>
>5) Someone responsible for coding each tool (I take to to begin with).
>CHKDSK.EXE
oki gonna evaluate and then probably code this
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:21:53 +0100, JMA wrote:
>So no more talk, lets start working:
>
>I'm now starting the command line tools team. Our goal is to build compatible
>versions of the command line tools you find in OS/2 Warp 4.
>[..]
>
>5) Someone responsible for coding each tool (I take to to begin with).
>CHKDSK.EXE
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Re: Part 4
#117 From: "khaverblad" <kim@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:07 am
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First of all I would like to congratulate You all
to a great work to regarding building up a huge
fuzz about osFree <grin> Well, what can I see;
I fully support it.
Next is that I didn't have to chance to download
the files for myself, currently just hade some
chats with os2 world news master that was sould out
right away on it. Tell, me where to get the files
and I'll set it up on OS2 World under
http://www.os2world.com/osFree. If any one have the
time to scrap some html together that would be nice
since I already working on couple of sites.
Regards,
Kim Haverblad
OS2 World.Com
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First of all I would like to congratulate You all
to a great work to regarding building up a huge
fuzz about osFree <grin> Well, what can I see;
I fully support it.
Next is that I didn't have to chance to download
the files for myself, currently just hade some
chats with os2 world news master that was sould out
right away on it. Tell, me where to get the files
and I'll set it up on OS2 World under
http://www.os2world.com/osFree. If any one have the
time to scrap some html together that would be nice
since I already working on couple of sites.
Regards,
Kim Haverblad
OS2 World.Com
Stockholm, Sweden
Re: Part 4
#118 From: Adrian Suri <ASuri@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:11 am
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Hi all,
my first posting to this group, I noticed that people were talking about
"I'm now starting the command line tools team" just a thought, there a
few already a rich set of utilities available already, why reinvent the
wheel,
eg command line replacements eg source not included but I am sure if
someone contacted the author
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-viewer ... 2clu03.zip
Well thanks for setting up the group it is much appreciated'
Regards
Adrian Suri
JMA wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:47:41 +0300 (MST), Marat Khalili wrote:
>
> > 2. They have definitely attracted a lot of public - let us use it
> for good. Most of us are
> >programmers ready to do something - please *stay online* for some
> time. Leaked sources do
> >not matter, our community does.
> >
> Right !
>
> > 3. We'll have to decide what do we really need to keep of OS/2:
> kernel, driver base , CPI
> >programs, PM, WPS, PM programs, REXX-enabled shell, something else?
> >
> I called for a osFree/CMD group to get development started.
> As any programmer would agree, it takes much longer to think something
> out than to do the
> actual coding.
>
> Whatever underpinnings (loader/kernel/drivers model) we choose we will
> still need the command
> line tools and the CPI (Dos/Kbd/Mou/Vio) layer.
> This is a place we can start and where most of us can help.
>
> If you know how to build kernel stuff join osFree/Kernel. Test
> alternatives and tell us all what you
> found out. But PLEASE, dont just read websites and talk endlessly
> about it.
> Get the code, build it from scratch, answer questions like,
> how well would it fit the OS/2 community, how easy would it be to add
> OS/2 API support, could
> it be made to run OS/2 drivers etc.
>
> Action speaks louder than words.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> JMA
> Development and Consulting
>
> John Martin , jma@...
> ==================================
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> email: mail@...
> Phone: 46-(0)70-6278410
> ==================================
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Hi all,
my first posting to this group, I noticed that people were talking about
"I'm now starting the command line tools team" just a thought, there a
few already a rich set of utilities available already, why reinvent the
wheel,
eg command line replacements eg source not included but I am sure if
someone contacted the author
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-viewer ... 2clu03.zip
Well thanks for setting up the group it is much appreciated'
Regards
Adrian Suri
JMA wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:47:41 +0300 (MST), Marat Khalili wrote:
>
> > 2. They have definitely attracted a lot of public - let us use it
> for good. Most of us are
> >programmers ready to do something - please *stay online* for some
> time. Leaked sources do
> >not matter, our community does.
> >
> Right !
>
> > 3. We'll have to decide what do we really need to keep of OS/2:
> kernel, driver base , CPI
> >programs, PM, WPS, PM programs, REXX-enabled shell, something else?
> >
> I called for a osFree/CMD group to get development started.
> As any programmer would agree, it takes much longer to think something
> out than to do the
> actual coding.
>
> Whatever underpinnings (loader/kernel/drivers model) we choose we will
> still need the command
> line tools and the CPI (Dos/Kbd/Mou/Vio) layer.
> This is a place we can start and where most of us can help.
>
> If you know how to build kernel stuff join osFree/Kernel. Test
> alternatives and tell us all what you
> found out. But PLEASE, dont just read websites and talk endlessly
> about it.
> Get the code, build it from scratch, answer questions like,
> how well would it fit the OS/2 community, how easy would it be to add
> OS/2 API support, could
> it be made to run OS/2 drivers etc.
>
> Action speaks louder than words.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> JMA
> Development and Consulting
>
> John Martin , jma@...
> ==================================
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> email: mail@...
> Phone: 46-(0)70-6278410
> ==================================
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#118 From: Adrian Suri <ASuri@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:11 am
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Hi all,
my first posting to this group, I noticed that people were talking about
"I'm now starting the command line tools team" just a thought, there a
few already a rich set of utilities available already, why reinvent the
wheel,
eg command line replacements eg source not included but I am sure if
someone contacted the author
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-viewer ... 2clu03.zip
Well thanks for setting up the group it is much appreciated'
Regards
Adrian Suri
JMA wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:47:41 +0300 (MST), Marat Khalili wrote:
>
> > 2. They have definitely attracted a lot of public - let us use it
> for good. Most of us are
> >programmers ready to do something - please *stay online* for some
> time. Leaked sources do
> >not matter, our community does.
> >
> Right !
>
> > 3. We'll have to decide what do we really need to keep of OS/2:
> kernel, driver base , CPI
> >programs, PM, WPS, PM programs, REXX-enabled shell, something else?
> >
> I called for a osFree/CMD group to get development started.
> As any programmer would agree, it takes much longer to think something
> out than to do the
> actual coding.
>
> Whatever underpinnings (loader/kernel/drivers model) we choose we will
> still need the command
> line tools and the CPI (Dos/Kbd/Mou/Vio) layer.
> This is a place we can start and where most of us can help.
>
> If you know how to build kernel stuff join osFree/Kernel. Test
> alternatives and tell us all what you
> found out. But PLEASE, dont just read websites and talk endlessly
> about it.
> Get the code, build it from scratch, answer questions like,
> how well would it fit the OS/2 community, how easy would it be to add
> OS/2 API support, could
> it be made to run OS/2 drivers etc.
>
> Action speaks louder than words.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> JMA
> Development and Consulting
>
> John Martin , jma@...
> ==================================
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> email: mail@...
> Phone: 46-(0)70-6278410
> ==================================
>
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Hi all,
my first posting to this group, I noticed that people were talking about
"I'm now starting the command line tools team" just a thought, there a
few already a rich set of utilities available already, why reinvent the
wheel,
eg command line replacements eg source not included but I am sure if
someone contacted the author
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-viewer ... 2clu03.zip
Well thanks for setting up the group it is much appreciated'
Regards
Adrian Suri
JMA wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:47:41 +0300 (MST), Marat Khalili wrote:
>
> > 2. They have definitely attracted a lot of public - let us use it
> for good. Most of us are
> >programmers ready to do something - please *stay online* for some
> time. Leaked sources do
> >not matter, our community does.
> >
> Right !
>
> > 3. We'll have to decide what do we really need to keep of OS/2:
> kernel, driver base , CPI
> >programs, PM, WPS, PM programs, REXX-enabled shell, something else?
> >
> I called for a osFree/CMD group to get development started.
> As any programmer would agree, it takes much longer to think something
> out than to do the
> actual coding.
>
> Whatever underpinnings (loader/kernel/drivers model) we choose we will
> still need the command
> line tools and the CPI (Dos/Kbd/Mou/Vio) layer.
> This is a place we can start and where most of us can help.
>
> If you know how to build kernel stuff join osFree/Kernel. Test
> alternatives and tell us all what you
> found out. But PLEASE, dont just read websites and talk endlessly
> about it.
> Get the code, build it from scratch, answer questions like,
> how well would it fit the OS/2 community, how easy would it be to add
> OS/2 API support, could
> it be made to run OS/2 drivers etc.
>
> Action speaks louder than words.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> JMA
> Development and Consulting
>
> John Martin , jma@...
> ==================================
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> email: mail@...
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#120 From: "JMA" <mail@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:17 am
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:11:23 +0100, Adrian Suri wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>
>my first posting to this group, I noticed that people were talking about
>
>"I'm now starting the command line tools team" just a thought, there a
>few already a rich set of utilities available already, why reinvent the
>wheel,
>eg command line replacements eg source not included but I am sure if
>someone contacted the author
>
>http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-viewer ... 2clu03.zip
>
>
He is already contacted and invited !
>
>Well thanks for setting up the group it is much appreciated'
>
Thanks for supporting us !
Sincerely
JMA
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:11:23 +0100, Adrian Suri wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>
>my first posting to this group, I noticed that people were talking about
>
>"I'm now starting the command line tools team" just a thought, there a
>few already a rich set of utilities available already, why reinvent the
>wheel,
>eg command line replacements eg source not included but I am sure if
>someone contacted the author
>
>http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-viewer ... 2clu03.zip
>
>
He is already contacted and invited !
>
>Well thanks for setting up the group it is much appreciated'
>
Thanks for supporting us !
Sincerely
JMA
Development and Consulting
John Martin , jma@...
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